Here’s Trump’s troubling answer at last night’s debate.
KELLY: Mr. Trump, your campaign website to this day argues that more visas for highly skilled workers would, quote, “decimate American workers”. However, at the CNBC debate, you spoke enthusiastically in favor of these visas. So, which is it?
TRUMP: I’m changing. I’m changing. We need highly skilled people in this country, and if we can’t do it, we’ll get them in. But, and we do need in Silicon Valley, we absolutely have to have.
So, we do need highly skilled, and one of the biggest problems we have is people go to the best colleges. They’ll go to Harvard, they’ll go to Stanford, they’ll go to Wharton, as soon as they’re finished they’ll get shoved out. They want to stay in this country. They want to stay here desperately, they’re not able to stay here. For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brain power in this country.
(APPLAUSE)
KELLY: So you abandoning the position on your website…
TRUMP: … I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position because we have to have talented people in this country.
And here’s the near-instantaneous clarification put out by his campaign.
I suppose he’s made sense of it now — he was only talking about workers higher skilled than H-1Bs. Megyn Kelly never says “H-1B.” It’s true that the closer you get to Einstein-level skills, the more plausible the benefits of immigration.
Still, if that’s all Trump was saying, it’s not inconsistent with his website. So why did he say “I’m changing,” and that he’s “softened” his positions?
He gives the impression that someone’s lobbied him, and that somebody isn’t Jeff Sessions.
At some point in this sort of controversy it’s not enough to clarify the point on his web site or in a press release. Trump’s got a great immigration adviser, Stephen Miller — but you want to hear it from the candidate himself, as a demonstration that he actually believes it and understands it.
For those who believe in immigration control, we’re in the middle of a sort of a harmonic convergence of paranoia about Trump. There’s
— Last night’s “softening.”
— Last night’s defense of bringing in less-skilled foreign guest workers for “seasonal’ jobs.
— The alleged secret off-the-record NYT tape, which editorial page editor Andrew Rosenthal helpfully distributed to the paper’s reporters, in which Trump supposedly makes undetermined admissions of flexibility on immigration.
— Trump’s statement on Hannity that “everything’s negotiable” (except building the Wall).
— The emergence of Newt Gingrich, a proponent of the bogus Krieble touchback plan, as a possible player in Trump’s administration.
— Trumps stunning statement, at the debate, that his differences with Rubio on the issue were a matter of “degree” — and his seeming to approve Rubio’s “Gang of 8” amnesty efforts as “a little give and take and a little negotiation.”
–The general infrequency with which Trump makes the wage-boosting argument against mass immigration (as opposed to, say, the drug-interdiction argument for the Wall).
Is Trump really pivoting this early into a bland general election mode? Does he think that would help even in a general election? Who is he listening to? Is he appealing to donors now that he has to raise some money? Does he take his supporters (on immigration) for granted? Does he realize that weakening his positions now deprives him of the mandate he needs, come negotiatin’ time? Are we supposed to trust him implicitly just because, early in the campaign, he flouted PC and said some Mexican illegal immigrants were “rapists”? If he sells out on this issue, what other …
Whoa, steady, Mickey! Don’t get carried away. Maybe this really is just paranoia, feeding on itself. Unskilled immigration is more damaging than skilled immigration, because it lowers the wages of American workers at the very bottom. And even if Trump is soft on skilled guestworkers, as he seems to be, I still think he’s likely to give us border security (the Wall, E-Verify, etc.) — more likely than the slippery Cruz, who is in turn better than everyone else left in the race.
And security is the first order of business. Unless we control who comes in, debates about levels of immigration are pointless, because illegals will come in anyway. If Trump can achieve that control — and how does he not build the Wall? — then we can debate about the numbers of visas.
RT @reihan: Say you gave Trump benefit of the doubt because of his stance on immigration (@kausmickey): https://t.co/AM6aZyVZAD https://t.c…
Coulter tweeting again: still going Trump. S***. I don’t trust Trump but I do trust her.
“. . . he actually believes it and understands it.”
Well, there’s your problem right there. Beliefs always exceed understanding, and in some cases, Mr. Trump’s included, it’s difficult to tell the difference.
To me the point he was trying to make about graduates of top schools being shown the door is or at least can be entirely consistent with a tough stance on illegal immigration and H1B’s. We do want high skilled legal permanent immigrants to this country. We’re so busy bending over backwards to accommodate the millions of low-skilled illegal immigrants and their legal family members, that we end up pushing out the ones we do want to be here.
I posted this to a Mark Leibovich piece in NYT:
Nearing the end of primaries outsider leaders tend to make deals with the center, so, just speculating:
Trump agrees to dial down anti-immigration rhetoric, and the GOP dials down anti-Trump stuff, including getting endorsements for the GOP nominee from the other candidates.
Trump really came out with positive statements on low skill immigration, consistent with his use of them in his hotels and other businesses. He also offered support for high skill immigration of foreign students at American universities, and even H-1B. The powerful question on H-1B, which had only been asked once in either party’s debates, could and indeed must be asked, now that Trump had agreed to go soft, to clarify his new position.
The enormous pressure Trump had been under, including searing criticism from the previous nominee and talk of the KKK, seemingly was put to bed. The KKK, David Duke story was always rather phony, Trump had condemned them several times before, though special mention to McConnell, Ryan, and other political actors for a taking a courageous stand against the KKK.
Immigration is the leading issue of the global corporation-funded establishment, and how many voices are there in MSM criticizing increased immigration, aka ‘reform’ – a nice round number? The establishment may be motivated by humanitarianism or a love of money, you can’t tell in any individual case.
Harmonic Convergence of Paranoia! https://t.co/cFEKQJMLz5
Mickey Kaus–Trump,H1B etc:https://t.co/e7Q8iRpDP2 Pres Trump will push immigration-control but we also will have to lean hard on Congress.
“Does [Trump] take his supporters (on immigration) for granted?”
No, he takes them as clueless marks.
@StefanVersac @DamienRieu Ses mots, pas les miens. https://t.co/iwqTv45BsF https://t.co/RKfcGoEKEb
[…] 2, 3, 4, 5), and other reservations. Barn-burners will be disappointed. Cascades and games (did he swerve?). Democracy did it. (“Democracy, not even once.”) Trump’s twitter operation. […]
RT @kausmickey: I didn’t think Trump Paranoia would come this soon. But here we are https://t.co/AubCWwjgU1
To get it out of the way, Nobel prize winners don’t come with H1-B, there are other categories for that.
> Unskilled immigration is more damaging than skilled immigration, because it lowers the wages of American workers at the very bottom.
It’s arguably the opposite. High(ish) skilled immigration lowers the wages of skilled Americans, harms their ability to repay student loans, and ability to start families. Intelligent Americans not reproducing is a bigger harm than the bottom not reproducing. Soft eugenics is GOOD for a nation.
Besides, H1-B is a scam, there is no shortage of highly skilled Americans. When Facebook and the like claim they “can’t find talent”, they simply don’t want to pay the market price for those skills. Apparently when it’s about wages, they don’t like the free market. A few years ago there was even a lawsuit about top tech companies colluding to keep wages down by not making offers to each others’ employees (“poaching”).
One more thing: I don’t get which voter block Trump wants to recruit by going soft on H1-B immigration. He can only lose voters by supporting it, and can’t gain anybody.